Comments on: TDD is not about testing!!! http://www.makinggoodsoftware.com/2009/11/21/tdd-is-not-about-testing/ Fri, 03 Feb 2012 13:13:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Antes de Programar… Pensá! | nadaia http://www.makinggoodsoftware.com/2009/11/21/tdd-is-not-about-testing/comment-page-1/#comment-8363 Antes de Programar… Pensá! | nadaia Mon, 07 Jun 2010 11:49:30 +0000 http://www.makinggoodsoftware.com/?p=1125#comment-8363 [...] is lately a lot of hype around engineering practices as TDD, Refactoring, keeping things simple (KISS)… and while they are great, it is important to remember [...] [...] is lately a lot of hype around engineering practices as TDD, Refactoring, keeping things simple (KISS)… and while they are great, it is important to remember [...]

]]> By: Alberto Gutierrez http://www.makinggoodsoftware.com/2009/11/21/tdd-is-not-about-testing/comment-page-1/#comment-4599 Alberto Gutierrez Mon, 01 Feb 2010 13:51:47 +0000 http://www.makinggoodsoftware.com/?p=1125#comment-4599 Hi Thomas! I've just read your post, quite interesting! Thank for you comment!! Hi Thomas! I’ve just read your post, quite interesting! Thank for you comment!!

]]> By: Thomas Weller http://www.makinggoodsoftware.com/2009/11/21/tdd-is-not-about-testing/comment-page-1/#comment-4594 Thomas Weller Mon, 01 Feb 2010 10:30:28 +0000 http://www.makinggoodsoftware.com/?p=1125#comment-4594 Hi Alberto, good point. Actually, I think that (1) TDD should not be seen in an agile context at all because (2) TDD is essentially a general programming technique which produces some desirable side effects (like e.g. 'good' code, repeatable tests). But the bottom line is: TDD is programming. I wrote a quite detailed blog post about this, which is called <a href="http://geekswithblogs.net/thomasweller/archive/2009/11/03/tdd-is-not-about-testing-its-about-how-we-develop.aspx" rel="nofollow">TDD is not about testing, it's about how we develop software</a> (sic)... Hi Alberto, good point.
Actually, I think that (1) TDD should not be seen in an agile context at all because (2) TDD is essentially a general programming technique which produces some desirable side effects (like e.g. ‘good’ code, repeatable tests). But the bottom line is: TDD is programming. I wrote a quite detailed blog post about this, which is called TDD is not about testing, it’s about how we develop software (sic)…

]]> By: TDD con Python « il libero http://www.makinggoodsoftware.com/2009/11/21/tdd-is-not-about-testing/comment-page-1/#comment-3134 TDD con Python « il libero Sat, 26 Dec 2009 14:39:21 +0000 http://www.makinggoodsoftware.com/?p=1125#comment-3134 [...] Making Good Software, leí una vez un post muy interesante titulado “TDD is not about testing!!!” que me llamó mucho la atención al principio. Mucha gente piensa que escribir los tests primero es [...] [...] Making Good Software, leí una vez un post muy interesante titulado “TDD is not about testing!!!” que me llamó mucho la atención al principio. Mucha gente piensa que escribir los tests primero es [...]

]]> By: Fabrice Aimetti http://www.makinggoodsoftware.com/2009/11/21/tdd-is-not-about-testing/comment-page-1/#comment-2149 Fabrice Aimetti Sat, 28 Nov 2009 08:21:38 +0000 http://www.makinggoodsoftware.com/?p=1125#comment-2149 Hi Alberto, your post is very interesting. I've translated it in french <a href="http://www.fabrice-aimetti.fr/dotclear/index.php?post/2009/11/21/TDD-ne-concerne-pas-que-le-test" rel="nofollow">TDD ne concerne pas que le test !!!</a> Regards, Fabrice Hi Alberto, your post is very interesting. I’ve translated it in french TDD ne concerne pas que le test !!!
Regards, Fabrice

]]> By: Alberto Gutierrez http://www.makinggoodsoftware.com/2009/11/21/tdd-is-not-about-testing/comment-page-1/#comment-2069 Alberto Gutierrez Mon, 23 Nov 2009 09:26:19 +0000 http://www.makinggoodsoftware.com/?p=1125#comment-2069 Hi Aneesh, you are right, pair programming is not necessary to perform TDD, I obviously was too extrimist on my paragraph >>TDD is pointless if it is not combined with other agile engineering practices, as pair programming, or agile philosophies as YAGNI and KISS, I am going to correct it now, thanks for your observation Hi Aneesh, you are right, pair programming is not necessary to perform TDD, I obviously was too extrimist on my paragraph >>TDD is pointless if it is not combined with other agile engineering practices, as pair programming, or agile philosophies as YAGNI and KISS, I am going to correct it now, thanks for your observation

]]> By: Alberto Gutierrez http://www.makinggoodsoftware.com/2009/11/21/tdd-is-not-about-testing/comment-page-1/#comment-2068 Alberto Gutierrez Mon, 23 Nov 2009 09:21:27 +0000 http://www.makinggoodsoftware.com/?p=1125#comment-2068 Hi Bubak! That's a good observation, maybe I was too extremist with my article, TDD is not pointless without other agile techniques, but certainly helps to use them. Hi Bubak! That’s a good observation, maybe I was too extremist with my article, TDD is not pointless without other agile techniques, but certainly helps to use them.

]]> By: Bubak http://www.makinggoodsoftware.com/2009/11/21/tdd-is-not-about-testing/comment-page-1/#comment-2065 Bubak Mon, 23 Nov 2009 09:12:26 +0000 http://www.makinggoodsoftware.com/?p=1125#comment-2065 >>TDD is pointless if it is not combined with other agile engineering practices, as pair programming, or agile philosophies as YAGNI and KISS This is not true. TDD!=agile. It produces very good results even without that stuff. >>TDD is pointless if it is not combined with other agile engineering practices, as pair programming, or agile philosophies as YAGNI and KISS

This is not true. TDD!=agile. It produces very good results even without that stuff.

]]> By: Aneesh http://www.makinggoodsoftware.com/2009/11/21/tdd-is-not-about-testing/comment-page-1/#comment-2062 Aneesh Mon, 23 Nov 2009 04:14:05 +0000 http://www.makinggoodsoftware.com/?p=1125#comment-2062 Spot on about TDD being a design approach rather than writing your tests first. But I don't agree that TDD is not useful if you are not pair programming. Even if you are coding all by yourself, TDD is the right way to go about it. TDD turns you into becoming the first consumer of your own code, thereby making you think about the APIs that you write. This helps you clean up the APIs. Spot on about TDD being a design approach rather than writing your tests first. But I don’t agree that TDD is not useful if you are not pair programming. Even if you are coding all by yourself, TDD is the right way to go about it. TDD turns you into becoming the first consumer of your own code, thereby making you think about the APIs that you write. This helps you clean up the APIs.

]]> By: Test Driven Development « London software testing news UK http://www.makinggoodsoftware.com/2009/11/21/tdd-is-not-about-testing/comment-page-1/#comment-2053 Test Driven Development « London software testing news UK Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:57:29 +0000 http://www.makinggoodsoftware.com/?p=1125#comment-2053 [...] Test Driven Development Posted in Acceptance testing by testing in London on the November 22, 2009 From Making Good Software [...] [...] Test Driven Development Posted in Acceptance testing by testing in London on the November 22, 2009 From Making Good Software [...]

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